by Edward Max, MD, PhD
An evolutionist's view of the evidence. Paper distributed at his debate with Duane Gish 2/22/01.
For an introduction to this interchange see Debate.
"The Scientific Evidence For Creation" by Duane Gish, PhD
Summary of scientific evidence for creation distributed at his debate with Edward Mx, 2/22/01.
For an introduction to this interchange see Debate.
"A Creationist Analysis of Edward Max's 'The Evolution of Improved Fitness'" by Ross Olson, 3/22/01.
After claiming Creationists are in a catagory with flat earthers and snake oil salesmen, Dr. Edward Max leaves himself wide open to charges of either sloppy thinking or deceptive writing regarding what he considers to be "evolution in action."
"The Irreducible Complexity Concept has Not Been Falsified" by Jerry Bergman In The Bergman / Myers Debate the validity of irreducible complexity wasquestioned
Jerry Bergman has shown that the concept is still insurmountable for evolutionists
by Fred Schmugge
Evolutionary beliefs are not scientific and should not be favored in schools.
(Rev. Schmugge was one of the organizers and served as the first secretary of TCCSA.)
by David Snoke
Many disparage arguments based on the impossibility of natural phenomena as "God of the Gaps" and state that it makes Christianity vulnerable to falsification if a natural cause is found. See what Dr. Snoke says about it in an article published in the ASA Journal and used by permission of the author. He is a long age creationist and comments on what he feels are "gaps" in the predictions of young age creationists, but also admits that evidence could change that. It appears that since his article appeared, the recent RATE project of ICR, CRS and AiG is doing this. See "New RATE Data Supports A Young World"
and "RATE group reveals exciting breakthroughs!"
The Romans One Test by Ross Olson
Romans One indicates that the existence of God and something of His nature are so apparent from the things He has made that those who fail to recognize it are "without excuse." Yet there are Christians - who ought to know better - that still endorse a cosmology indistinguishable from that of an atheistic thinker.
"The Ultimate Hoax: Archaeopteryx Lithographica" by Ian Taylor
An Article From Proceedings of The Second International Conference on Creation,1990, with printed discussion by experts and response by the author. Used by permission.
"Archaeopteryx" by Russ McGlenn
Archaeopteryx is usually presented as a classical example of a transitional form between reptiles and birds, but it may be a fabrication and even if it is not, is only a bird with some unusual characteristics.
"beetles" by Mitchell Pagel, 2007 Sixth Grader, presented at the 11/20/07 meeting.
BURIED TREASURE
Coal: Memorial to the Flood by Tas Walker
If the Biblical Global Flood really occurred in history, is there evidence in the world which is consistent with such an event? There certainly is!
CELLS, NOT SIMPLE ANY MORE
"Cellular Reproduction" by Alyssa Pagel, 2008 Ninth Grader who read her paper at the November 2008 meeting.
"The Case For A Scientifically Objective Evolution Curriculum" by Randall Hedtke. (*Used by permission.) High School science teacher, Randall Hedtke was persecuted for teaching both evidence for and against evolution. He makes an excellent case that it is the only rational and scientific way to do it. His book, The Great Evolution Curriculum Hoax: The Intense Yet Hidden Conflict Of Science Versus Religion In Secondary Schools, is available from the author.
A short article summarizing the subject Reprinted with permission from:
Creation Science Movement
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Pamphlet 387, August 2012
by Richard Broadberry
"Peer Review and Scientific Progress" by Ross Olson
Is publication in a peer reviewed journal the minimum criteria for a valid scientific hypothesis?
COMMUNICATE, COMMUNICATE, COMMUNICATE
"The Wedge - A Progress Report" by Phillip Johnson
The founder of the Wedge Strategy reports on the progress of the Intelligent Design Movement in bringing the weaknesses of evolutionary naturalism into the public eye.
"The Meanings of Evolution" by Stephen C. Meyer and Michael Newton Keas
Proponents of evolution confuse the issue by using several meanings of the word interchangably. (An article on the Discovery Institute web site.)
The word "Creationism" brings to mind other "isms" which often produce unfavorable reactions -- like "communism" or "racism." Why not turn the tables and say "creation vs evolutionism?"
"Darwin's Mystery Illness" by Russell Grigg First published in Creation Ex Nihilo 17(4):28-30, September-December 1995.
Darwin seemed to suffer from psychosomatic illnesses all the time he worked on "Origin. Find out why?
The PBS miniseries on Evolution which ran the week of 9/24/2001, was an elaborate, subtle and clever attack by atheistic evolution on the book of Genesis.
/articles/pbs_evolution.html 100 SCIENTISTS, NATIONAL POLL CHALLENGE DARWINISM. Do all scientists agree that evolution is true? Guess again! This is a news release about 100 who strongly disagree, think media treatment of the subject is scandalous and feel that they are being unfairly censored.
DESIGNER GENES OR RANDOM RAGS?
The Case of the Pseudogenes by Paul Nesselroade Now that some pseudogenes are known to have specific functions, do evolutionists admit that they look designed? (Hint: "Nothing in biology makes sense except in the light of evolution. Dobzhansky, 1973.")
HUMAN AND CHIMPANZEE DNA IN THE NEWS . . . AGAIN by Frank Sherwin, M.A. Zoology Macroevolutionists at Wayne State University School of Medicine in Detroit announced key genetic material (DNA) of people and chimps that is 99.4% the same. But they are concerned that there ought to be MORE difference. And remember, we share 50% of our genes with bananas!
"Facts on Earth" by Francie Volk, 2008 Fourth Grader Writing Contest Winner who read her paper at the 9/16/08 meeting.
EDUCATION OR INDOCTRINATION?
Intelligent Design and the Schools by Ross Olson
Should Intelligent Design be taught in the schools? A paper given at a town meeting for select high school students at the University of Minnesota.
Intelligent Design by Ross Olson
A paper given at a meeting of the Jewish Community Relations Council on March 9, 2006.
Ross Olson Evolved by Ross Olson
From an evolutionist to a creationists! Of course, evolutionists would call it a deleterious mutation. But wouldn't even that prove the point!?
Child Abuse? by Ross Olson
Is teaching children about God and Creation child abuse?
EGYPT AND THE BIBLE
The Historicity of Joseph by Dr. Charles Aling
Did Joseph really rise from slavery to high office in ancient Egypt? Do the Egyptian records give any indication?
Mystery Of The Mistreated Mummy by Russ McGlenn
Was the hastily prepared mummy wrapped in sheepskin and buried with two staffs actually the first son of the Pharoah of the Exodus?
THE EYES HAVE IT... RIGHT AFTER ALL!
Is Our 'Inverted' Retina Really 'Bad Design'? by Peter W. V. Gurney
Evolutionists intent on finding flaws in living things missed completely the sophisticated design features of the mammalian retina.
FUN WITH FALLACIES
"In Favor of Gods-of-the-Gaps Reasoning" by David Snoke
Many disparage arguments based on the impossibility of natural phenomena as "God of the Gaps" and state that it makes Christianity vulnerable to falsification if a natural cause is found. See what Dr. Snoke says about it in an article published in the ASA Journal and used by permission of the author.
"Bill Nye" by Ross Olson
"Dancing with the Stars" does not mask dancing with the devil.
FOSSIL FACTS AND FANTASIES
"Logic and the Interpretation of Fossils" by Russell T. Arndts
The whole question about the logic used to evaluate fossils to support evolution can be studied by one simple challenge: where are the rules?
GENETICS
J.C.Sanford's Genetic Entropy & the Mystery of the Genome nails down the coffin on both the idea of gradual improvement by natural selection and any possibility that the human race has been around for more than a few thousand years.
"Cellular Reproduction" by Alyssa Pagel, 2008 Ninth Grader who read her paper at the November 2008 meeting.
GERMS, GERMS!
"Louis Pasteur" By John Nuckols
Pasteur questioned the theory of evolution, because Darwin did not base
his ideas on experimental proof.
"250 Million Years Is A Long Time" by Ross Olson
Response to articles claiming that bacteria 250 million years old were found in a salt crystal.
"Still No Proof For Ancient Age -A Response" by W. M. Overn and Russell T. Arndts
A technical analysis of "Isochrons" as defended by Dalrymple against creationist criticism, showing that despite mathematical sophistication, they are unreliable and are calibrated to "known ages" using the geologic column.
"The Young Earth"
by Henry M. Morris, Ph.D.
A series of measurable processes on earth point to a young age.
(Link to ICR Web Article Archive)
"Experiments in Stratification" by Guy Berthault
Does stratified rock prove long ages? Actual experiments by this French researcher show something very different.
The Anniversary of Creation by Linda Gunderson, Rosh Hashana Traditionally Marks The Anniversary Of The Creation Of The World. It Began Sundown Friday, September 26, 2003.
Frozen In (Short) Time: Lost Squadron Found Under 268 Feet Of Greenland Ice After (Only) 50 Years -- The Rest Of The Story.
See the story on the site of the Lost Squadron Museum or if that link does not work, click HERE, then peruse the AIG Article which details the challenge this is to conventional dating of glaciers
Submitted by Fred Koestner.
Opals in Weeks Long ages not needed ro form precious gems
GLOBAL WARMING HEATS UP
What Does Global Warming Have To Do With Creation?
Like the Creation/Evolution issue:
* It is "science" by consensus
* Discussion is not allowed (dissenters want discussion)
* Key evidence is ignored
- there have been cycles of warming and cooling in the past
- Greenland was farmed by the Vikings long before industrialization
- Carbon dioxide follows warming as the oceans warm and release it
* Dissenters are vilified
* It assumes that man can save the earth
* It leaves out God's plan
* It accepts billions of years of earth history
* And longs for dramatic population reduction.
A Letter to Prentice Hall Publishers by Bryan Olson, Science teacher Bryan Olson finds the new Prentice Hall Life Science text to contain Ernst Haeckel's discredited embryo drawings and the infamous peppered moth example as proof of evolution.
A Letter to Time by Ross Olson, Time Magazine dared show prenatal development in all its complexity, but implied that the early stages are less than human using Haeckel's discredited conclusions.
GOOD SCIENCE
Tributes to Bud Froehlich by Al Heitkamp and Bill Overn. Bud Froehlich was a dedicated Christian, a creationist and a member of TCCSA. His life and work defy the charge that creationists do not do good science.
HALDANE'S DILEMMA, A PROBLEM FOR THE NON-GENIUS?
Haldane's Dilemma A genius was disturbed Should lesser evolutionists worry, too?
Click HERE for Walter Remine's analysis, effectively nailing Darwin's coffin closed.
It came up at the November 16, 2009 Bergman-Myers Debate at the University of Minnesota
Dr. Jerry Bergman made the charge in the debate responding to a question from the audience about the morality of evolution. He has written extensively on the subject finds a clear connection. See one of his papers HERE.
According to historian of science Dr. Mark Borrello, who moderated the debate, "There is abundant scholarship on this issue (that generally does not support the kind of simplistic analysis presented by Dr Bergman in his AIG piece.)" And later, "To my mind, and in the view of the majority of historians working in this area, the issue is settled." "I can and have responded to this argument (see the MnCSE website.)" For his essay, critiquing a talk by Dr. John West at the University of Minnesota, click HERE.
Dr. West responds to Dr. Borrello's critique: "I never disputed that a variety of non-Darwinists have treated people inhumanely throughout human history. The fact that non-Darwinists may also violate human dignity in no way refutes the clear evidence that Darwinists justified things like eugenics explicitly on Darwinian grounds. As for Borrello's claim that I cited Darwin inaccurately: He inaccurately cites what I said. For the sake of time, I couldn't read the entire Darwin quote he references, but I accurately summarized the portion I left out. Borrello is the one who is inaccurately citing Darwin, because he fails to acknowledge still later comments by Darwin at the end of Descent of Man extolling the struggle for survival as key to human progress. Borrello also doesn't appear to recognize how 'sympathy' is not much of an objection to eugenics in Darwin's scheme of morality... because Darwin views morality as ultimately determined by that which promotes physical survival; if sympathy no longer promotes survival, then it is no longer moral in Darwin's account of morality. I provide a discussion of this point in my 'Was a Social Darwinist?'"
When I (the webmaster for TCCSA) proposed to Drs. Myers, Bergman and Borrello, a civil discussion posted on the two web sites, Dr. P.Z. Myers responded, in the inimitable style of his popular blog, "Bergman: discredited nutcase with delusions of academic competence. Borrello: Serious scholar. I can see why you'd want to pretend they have parity, but no. That's just crazy." Click HERE and scroll down to #443 and #444 if you want the whole obscenity-laden context.
In declining participation in on ongoing civil discussion of the topic and admitting that his essay was not a formal paper, Dr. Borrello said, "German Darwinism is not my particular area of expertise (though I'm familiar with the secondary literature) and I therefore don't publish on these topics." He recommended a review of Richard Weikart's book, From Darwin to Hitler: Evolutionary Ethics, Eugenics, and Racism in Germany by historian of science Sander Gliboff. Click HERE to see it.
For Weikart's responses to critical reviews, including the one by Gliboff, click HERE. And for his newest work on the subject, Hitler's Ethic: The Nazi Pursuit of Evolutionary Progress click HERE.
John West's talk that precipitated Borrello's review was an adaptation of chapter seven from his book Darwin Day in America which can be viewed HERE. Click HERE for Faith + Evolution Debates thorough treatment of both sides of the question of evolution's influence on Nazism.
West's article "Was Darwin A Social Darwinist?" can be viewed HERE. And that topic is batted back and forth on the debate page linked HERE.
Darwinism and the Nazi Race Holocaust By Jerry Bergman. Darwinists try to hold Hitler at arm's length, if not a 10 foot pole, yet the data is clear. Evolution gave "scientific" justification for Nazi policies.
PS Why are we pursuing this angle instead of science? Well, the P.Z. Myers camp is pretty impervious to scientific understanding. In response to the question of where information comes from in evolution, Dr. Myers stated that evolution produces information!
When asked to explain, it appears that he believes duplication of genes produces information. He stated, "Of course evolution adds information: it's a process driven by random variation of a string of information, with subsequent filtering to find viable and more fit variants. My children are not identical to my wife and myself; they contain novel combinations of genes and many new mutations. I'll add that development is also a process that adds information. The adult multi-cellular organism that is PZ Myers is a concentrated node of complex information of much greater volume than the fertilized single-celled zygote that my parents made in 1956. As individuals and as a species, we extract energy and information from our environment to increase our personal information content."
Without even going into whether this means he is pro-life, the concept that duplication is not new information does not seem to register with him. In fact, duplication can do damage as in the case of Trisomy 21 -- Downs syndrome. All the normal information is there and one whole extra chromosome 21.
Myers also still believes that 95% of the human genome is junk -- a bit behind the times in genetics. Also, recombination is not new information and raw energy does not produce new information. The inevitable mutations are not his friends but are producing the dreaded "aging process."
Richard Dawkins at least hemmed and hawed before coming up with his answer for the dilemma of the source of information. See
www.tccsa.tc/articles/dawkins_pause.html and scroll down to Dawkins explanation of information (by elimination). In summary it goes like this. A friend has had as baby and you ask, "Is it a boy or girl?" The information is a result of the elimination of one possibility, which is "selection." Therefore, mutations do not increase information but natural selection does.
Since the Blogosphere does not seem particularly strong on analysis, let me draw a picture.
Information by subtraction does not add anything. It means you have to start with something and
keep on taking away from it. This DOES NOT build new body plans or behaviors as evolution needs.
Yet the mythology is out there that "Dr. Dawkins 'dealt with' the challenge."
Intelligent Design And The Public Schools: Talk by Ross Olson. Should Intelligent Design be taught in the schools? A paper given at a town meeting for select high school students at the University of Minnesota on January 4, 2006.
"Do Not Expect Answers" by Frank Sherwin Does it speak well for evolution when the most comprehensive review of macroevolution concludes, "Do not expect answers?"
"When Vegetables Were Nutritious AND Delicious:
Biblical Nutrition Based On The Garden of Eden" by Don Slinger Outline Slide Show NOTE 6 MB File References
"Life in Outer Space: Just Add Water?" by Ross Olson
The goals of the US Space Program seem to be based on the assumption that wherever liquid water can be found, life must have spontaneously arisen. Is this logical and scientific?
MAKE IT QUICK
Two talks with a 10 minute limit on the Biblical and Scientific Evidence for young Earth Creation
CAN CHRISTIANS THINK?By Robert Bowie Johnson, Jr.
Are the theories of the mainstream so powerful as to justify the claim that Christians who reject them are less than rational?
"Noah's Library" by Russ McGlenn
Handout from the lecture given 9/19/2006 at TCCSA
NOT IN KANSAS ANYMORE
"Evolutionism in the Schools" by Tom Willis
The Kansas Board of Education decision promoted science over acceptance of evolution by faith. (A letter published in USA Today)
"Is Science Self Correcting?" by Nancy Pearcey
Science is supposed to be self-correcting, but in some places teachers are even prohibited from informing students about recent corrections to the theory.
Click HERE For an article by the Chancellor of Kansas University opposing the Kansas Board of Education decision.
Click HERE for a reply by Ross Olson on the meaning of of the Kansas Board of Education Decision and the worrisome nature of the censorious responses to it.
Click HERE for an example of censorship and persecution of Faribault biology teacher Rod LeVake right here in "nice" Minnesota.
In the 1980's, Creation Research Society repeated and confirmed the earlier research of Clifford Burdick, finding intact pollen in the PreCambrian strata of the Grand Canyon, which according to standard chronology should have had no flowering plants. They also found 200 million years missing with the layers above and below the missing strata interbedded (blending) and no erosion. This means their deposition was continuous without any significant gap of time.
Halton Arp (1924 - 2013) , a maverick who should be hailed as a brilliant visionary, instead was rejected by the mainstream for challenging the ruling paradigm.
Disclaimer: There are some recent concerns about the sources from which the theory of the gospel in the stars was drawn.
See the article by Danny Faulkner. Also longer more recent article https://answersingenesis.org/astronomy/stars/a-further-examination-of-the-gospel-in-the-stars/ But the consistency of the names of the constellations and the stars included in them, the conflict between heroic figures and evil serpents or dragons, with the hero crushing the head of the evil while being wounded in the heel,if these stories are indeed of ancient origin, certainly hints at connections with the figures of the cosmic conflict and gospel resolution of it as recorded in the Bible.
Yet above all, one thing is undeniable for those who take the Bible seriously. The Magi knew that the King of the Jews was born, they knew it from the stars and they were GOOD GUYS! Scripture does not say that they followed the star to Jerusalem but know from the stars that the King of the Jews was born. The Star then was seen after they had consulted with Herod. There is no indication in the Scripture that there was anything illegitimate about those wise men from the east or the way they learned about the event about which all history revolves. Also, since the written Scripture as we know it did not appear until about 1400 BC, it is not unreasonable to suppose that God had arranged other ways to remind the world of His redeeming message, first given in prophecy to Eve. The images imposed on the heavens were a memory device used by people who had much better memories than we do now, and a teaching tool to pass knowledge on to the next generation.
Also, the ancients' pre-occupation with the stars and the eventual elevation of characters of the Zodiac to divine status by even the philosophically sophisticated Greeks makes it believeable that this arose as a perversion of an original truth. That the study of the stars has turned to a seductive evil actually strengthens the concept that it was originally good because the production of close counterfeits is the trademark of the enemy of our souls. And it also needs to be remembered that the ancient sources were mostly lost except for copies preserved in the Muslim world where it is quite possible that a systematic alteration might have taken place.
The Magi knew from looking at the stars that Jesus was born the King of the Jews -- and they were GOOD GUYS! How did they know and how does this fit in with the Biblical prohibitions concerning astrology? This was the topic of the November 21, 2000 Meeting.
"Star Witness" by Henry Morris
A review of the many suggested theories of the star of Bethelem.
"A New Star" from "The Gospel In The Stars" by Joseph Seiss.*
A new star appeared in the constellation of Coma about 125 years before Christ's birth and was nearly invisable 150 years after Christ. At its peak it was called the Daystar because it was visible in the daytime. What is the constellation Coma? It is called "The Virgin-born Son.!"
"The Alphabet and the Stars"
from "The Gospel In The Stars" by Joseph Seiss.*
There is an intriguing relationship between the constellations and the earliest alphabets.
"Summary of the Meaning of the Constellations" from "The Gospel In The Stars" by Joseph Seiss.*
The original names, order and meaning of the constellations tells the gospel story in the stars.
* The book by Joseph Seiss, "The Gospel in the Stars," first published in 1882, is available from Kregel Publishing.
"Yet another Eclipse for Herod" by John P. Pratt.
More information on the dating of the death of Herod which was mistakenly set at 4 BC by Josephus because Herod's sons who succeeded him, antedated their reigns -- perhaps to the time when they felt they had been selected. A later death allows much more dramatic celestial signs to be "The Star" seen by the Magi.
"Star of Wonder, Star of Night" by Craig Chester. The census or registration which brought Joseph and Mary to Bethlehem was a special enrollment called in 2 BC to commemorate the 750th anniversary of the founding of Rome and the 25th anniversary of the reign of Caesar Augustus who was to be declared "Father of his Country." There were significant celestial events that the Romans thought pointed to Caesar but the Magi knew to refer to the "King of the Jews."
"The Christmas Star" by Barry Setterfield
Another review of the historical and astronomical variables in determining the identity of the star of Bethelem.
One possible scenario of the heavenly signs seen at the time of Christ's birth.
"I am one of the Magi"
A dramatic monologue, one of the Magi tells his story. By Ross Olson (part of a series of Biblical monologues you may use at your church.)
"A Monograph On Psalm 19" by Bill Overn
In Psalm 19 the references to a message "continually being preached by the heavens" is the gospel told by the original meaning of the zodiac.
The Gospel Message Written In the Stars? There are questions about the accuracy of the sources from which the gospel in the stars theory is drawn. By Dr. Danny Faulkner
Gospel in the Stars Critique Answers Magazine critiques the concept of the zodiac being originally an object lesson in the sky used for the recalling of stories portraying the gospel prophecies, but they do not look at the most convincing material. By Ross Olson
Willaim DeJong writes of a newly published study: "The article refers to the largely unknown fact that both digital codes (computer programs) and nucleotide codes (DNA) are protected against mutations. The article concludes that living nature continuously adapts to changing circumstances by gene-regulation and the recombination of gene variants ('alleles') and selection. These mechanisms for random change and selection neither produce new alleles nor expand the length of the nucleotide code, and operate within the boundaries of mutation protection."
SKEPTICS, SLACKERS?
Skepticism's Prospects for Unseating Intelligent Design By William Dembski
Can skepticism turn its discerning eye on the foundations of its own faith? Otherwise it is doomed to docrinaire defense of a worldview that does not really hang together.
Link to the Wilberforce Forum Website
"Life In Space: Just Add Water?" by Ross Olson
If life is found everywhere on earth that liquid water exists, does that make it inevitable that it will exist on planets with water?
"Experiments In Stratification" by Guy Berthault, A small screen video of his famous 1993 stratification experiments showing that finely graded strata are not necessarily sequential but may be simultanous and can be formed rapidly.
Teaspoons Evolved From Primordial Tea by Professor G. H. Kailer, DTM (Doctor of Teaspoonicine Morphology)
Reprinted with permission from the Creation Science Association for Mid-America News, Volume 11(4) July/August 1994, www.csama.org
"Experiments In Stratification" by Guy Berthault, A small screen video of his famous 1993 stratification experiments showing that graded and sequences strata are not necessarily sequential but may be simultanous and can be formed rapidly, even on the scale of the Tonto Group at the Grand Canyon..
WYATT ARCHAEOLOGICAL RESEARCH:
TOO "GOOD" TO BE TRUE?
YES!
The late Ron Wyatt, between 1984 and his death in 1999, announced many discoveries which would tend to confirm Biblical history and thus might be accepted uncritically by Christians. He claims to have found not only the ark of Noah, but the Ark of the Covenant, the stone tablets with the 10 Commandments, Mount Sinai, the 12 pillars built by Moses in Exodus 24, the site where the ground swallowed the followers of Korah, the site of crossing the Red Sea with chariot wheels at 200 feet and a pillar commemorating the crossing placed by Solomon. He also claims to have translated the Copper Scroll and built a working model of the machine used by the Egyptians to build the pyramids. He even claimed to have found the socket in which the cross of Christ was placed and believes that the blood dripped down through cracks caused by the earthquakes to the Mercy Seat, buried 60 feet below. In addition to skepticism aroused by the prospect of one amateur archaeologist having such a "made for movies" career, he has also been known to use a dowsing rod in his searches. People examining the ark site are convinced that he even planted evidence there, such as petrified wood.
John Baumgardner was at first enthusiastic about the Durupinar site but changed his mind based on core drilling and careful examination. He feels it was formed by mudslides hitting a natural rock outcrop and lists his objections in a letter posted at http://www.tentmaker.org/WAR/BaumgardnerLetter.html
Creation (Ex Nihilo) Magazine published "Could this be Noah's Ark?" by Andrew Snelling in September 1992 with these comments: "Spectacular claims, a misleading video,people misquoted and misrepresented... It's no wonder many have asked the question..."
http://www.answersingenesis.org/docs/1154.asp